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  What if the Watchtower Changed .......

  by IslandWoman in

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  if the watchtower changed it's blood doctrine to one where publishers could do what their conscience dictated without fear of reprisals from the brothers, if they also quit using the two witness rule and said all criminal accusations must be reported to the police, if they stopped shunning, if they said all df and da'd could associate with their friends and family, if they apologized to ray franz and all others who were hurt by their policies; would exjws respect their dogma and refrain from putting down their religious beliefs to their faces?.

  this is an important question, more important than you know.

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  Watchtower to pay for Silentlambs trip

  by Dogpatch in

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  from silentlambs (bill bowen):.

  on thursday of this week world wide work money will again be spent to protect a pedophile.

  in addition it will also be spent to pay money to a disfellowshipped person in order to find a way to prevent them from assisting the court case of abuse survivors.

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  thanks fore this debatt, I think it was the most edjucatied I ever read here, perhaps this should bee read of evry JW like mee to understand this issu , a littel bit, thanks to the wictims as told ther story, and all former elders and bhetelites as tell ther wuie, and also sword of jah, as tell hes points, I can as ongoing JW tell some also.

  I now several case here in sweden and they have been dfd and send to prison, so I think this is diffrent , depends perhaps on who is handeling this things, not only in cong, also CO and legeal dep, have diffrent peopel who handel this things, and this result in diffrent outcome I think, some CO are very afraid of that some bad is coming out from ther congs, and perhaps try to proteckt themsevls.

  I also think we never heard one word from this still inn, to much to lose to tell this things, even myself have seen things when I was young who I never told anyone, why? yes Why, to much to lose, how want to destroy a whole cong and your parents life , your childrens life and so on, is the prise not to high , i think it is to many on going JW, they prefer to live widh the memorys, and try to handel them inside them self.

  I putt this in jehovas hands, cant do anyhthing else, but I can sure understand the frustration from this who dont can live widh this and come forward widh it and have no witnneses and are not belived by the elders, if I tell what I saw 35 years ago, I have no wittness, I now the involvd peopel never will confess,

  but I can tell it is sure difficult to listen to all speaks and all demonsraitions from them under 35 years,

  so in this I am also a wicktim, hurt in my heart of what i saw fore so long time ago.

  One thing we can thank BB fore, now it is end of this , here it is almost oppostie now, evryone are afaid to do anything wrong, so this fight have some good, not so many more abused children i think, perhaps Jehova have used BB to show this problem as we studied on WT sunday, kings from Israel do a lot of bad things, but was told from surten men send from jehova what wrong they was doing and was p unished , BUT WHO LOOK AT THE GOW BODY TODAY ?

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  How to Defeat the Watchtower Society

  by metatron in

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  how can you defeat the watchtower society?.

  first, meditate deeply on one question:.

  think carefully about the implications of this question - and how they could play out!.

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  I think it is only ONE thing how can take us down, and that is if someone can proof that we have a lot o money and they is hide somewhere, this dfd thing is a bigg problem fore us how is JWs, but i dint thin nations want to interfer in diffret´nt religions laws, beacause this is under religion fredom to putt upp ruels, and if you join you have to acept this ruels, you can not complain later, then you have done bad examinaition.
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  To whom belongs all the Watchtower's wealth?

  by JH in

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  i know this won't happen, but who would get all the money and the buildings and the lots, if the watchtower society would close down?

  how many people would benefit from this?.

  are there any figures on how much wealth the watchtower has accumulated over the years?

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  gerard.

  thanks.

  Do you now how live there,is it fore workers or fore the topp peopel?

  perhaps someone can putt inn a picture of this house.

  love from HM
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  To whom belongs all the Watchtower's wealth?

  by JH in

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  i know this won't happen, but who would get all the money and the buildings and the lots, if the watchtower society would close down?

  how many people would benefit from this?.

  are there any figures on how much wealth the watchtower has accumulated over the years?

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  Naive financial questions

  by gcc2k in

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  this is a sort-of-followup to my previous thread on "wt as sally mae" and the kh remodeling thread.. we all know that the wt must have a lot of money.

  my big issue is, where does the money go, and whom does it benefit?.

  so, my naive questions:.

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  gerard.
  Well i read this stuff from you before, and it is intresting, I have also wonder where are all the money go, we send as a littel cong around 1000 dollar evry month, enormus sume of money if this is a middel tribut, and some give motre and some less.

  when RF say he dont now ythis how will now,perhaps internet is the key to this, beaucause nothing can be hidded from corp how is legal, they have tto show evrything upp, even if they are tax free.

  I reqd about Russels corp, and are some of them still left?

  They have as goal to trade widh sotcks, if I dont remember wrong, and if we start widh this 1nn 1900, then we can be very rich.

  I read in sweed newspapper that if you putt inn 2 000$ in stock 1970, if you place them the best, you have now 2 billoin dollars, and this is no joke, and if you go back to 1900, i think my brain cant count so high, but if they have done this some must find it on internet in some way.
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  Hallo from Scandinavia

  by viktoria in

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  hallo everyone out there.. .

  little old me from scandinavia wants to say "hallo" to you all.. i ve been lurking for some time now, but couldent find the courage to write.. i m trying to fade away quiet and elegant but the dubs are after me like a group of blood hounds.. i feel so very very miserable about it all.

  at this moment the most "loving and zealous" couple in my cong.

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  hej vicktoria
  Är du från sverige, i så fall skriv på svenska,har varit här över 2 år, trots att jag är JW , o varit hela mitt liv även älste över 20 år,

  hälsar HM
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  To whom belongs all the Watchtower's wealth?

  by JH in

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  i know this won't happen, but who would get all the money and the buildings and the lots, if the watchtower society would close down?

  how many people would benefit from this?.

  are there any figures on how much wealth the watchtower has accumulated over the years?

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  gerard.

  I dont understand this pease of paper you putt in can you explain what it is how is so bad widh it?

  I remeber when you putt in some stuff about the morgan stanley fund, have you find some more about this?

  I think if we understand that we have been here seens 1900 , and under this time the market have explodede, the biggest growe ever, if we hade done investments from that time, we must have enormus sume of money,dont you think, and I think someone can find it on internet,beaucause evrything must be reported to goverments, I am surprised that nowan have done this.
  
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  Discipline or abuse - Which?

  by Lady Lee in

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  i am having a discussion on another board about the topic of disciplining children.

  some people seem to think that as long as the child did something to "deserve" it then the parent has the right to hit anyway they want.. grrrr.

  many of us grew up in a society that accepted the practice of corporal punishment.

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  Here in Sweden it is forbidden in law to spank children, and as wittneses we are very hard learnd to net do this, I have several children so I have some expirience.

  In the 50 when we grow upp in truht it was not so easy to be child, but I get never spanking,

  but the pressure to as parents do and obey was much higher then today, so when My chldren grow upp i never try to force them to things as myself find was hard when I grow upp, like service.

  But I must say I have trubel beaucause some of my children have turn to this modern style of living, wher you do as you want and never obey anyone, so they ahve gone to fare the other way, even widh mariujana and the life style they hade who use this.

  So sometime I think I ahve been to soft, and try to stopp them, but how do you stopp children today, it not easy, they are learnd from school to qesting evrything, so it is realy diffrent times, and hard to bee parents.
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  REGI stockbroker report shows military connections for Rand Cam

  by bebu in

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  i haven't seen this posted before here.

  it's rather a newer document (feb 19, 2003), so it may not have made it onto your radar screens yet.

  suprised i found it, myself.

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  happy man

  Realy very intresting, this look like an perfekt investmet, uI am so bad on englisch but is thhis a new form of motor ?

  Do someone now where the stock is trade and how much it cost, perhaps i wrtie to Wt and ask if I can by some of them, need to take back all money I lost in this mess market.

  love HM